The 'Why stock is best' thread.

[omg2doors]

After previous experience of modding my car - suspension, IHE, tuning, rims, I've realised I've wasted a lot of $ but at the end of the day, though car become slightly more fun to drive, the amount spend is not justifiable..plus my family isn't too happy about my car modding.

So...

What things can fellow bros say to encourage me to stay stock for performance when i get my Koup? I intend to do some minor aesthetic mods..but don't want to make it sporty..because then I will be pressured to make it perform sporty too..

[NiVleK]

Save $$$.

That is the ONE thing I keep telling myself.

Minor aesthetic mods I will do. But performance mods? Nah. Didnt really increase the bhp. Anyway even if you could increase, the difference will be not very significant unless you are really willing to go full out modding, which I rather you save the money and get a better car.

[Mac]

For NA car, don't bother with performance mods. Your gain will not be significant unless you willing to go all the way with supercharger or turbo charger. Save your money and buy nice dinner for your family.

[nightfever]

For NA car, don't bother with performance mods. Your gain will not be significant unless you willing to go all the way with supercharger or turbo charger. Save your money and buy nice dinner for your family.

I agree. Save up the xtra $$$ cos a koup will always be a koup. Like wat i read from another thread...a beautiful lady blessed with a stunning figure. when u strip her down, "she" is a AH GUA!!!

[Mac]

I agree. Save up the xtra $$$ cos a koup will always be a koup. Like wat i read from another thread...a beautiful lady blessed with a stunning figure. when u strip her down, "she" is a AH GUA!!!

I wouldn't describe the Koup in that manner. It is an honest car, it never pretend to be something that it is not. No special emblem to say it is sport or fast or "race me".

[Blacks]

Ya. spent on things more rewarding with family. For the not so rich (me).

Anyway don't think The "Rich" one is in the forum.

[omg2doors]

ok thanks ..very encouraging..

=)

[SoBeR]

Yap I agree with the sentiments here, love the car for it is, if you really want a better performing car, save the dough and get one that is warranted by the manufacturer

[joepele]

Strike a balance bro...

Enjoy your car... but dun over do it...

[viper007]

ya have to control else its a never ending story
best is put ur $ some where else which you cant spent easily

[rickong]

After previous modding experience with my cars, I'm pleased to say that I will be keeping the car stock for the entire length I own it.

[JuanST]

stock is best coz cnc cannot void ur warranty due to the mods u did not put....oso tp / lta cannot fine if the mods are not frenly/legal....

[The Blue Cruiser]

the more you modify, the poorer you will get. if you want something powerful, go for TC, SC, exhaust, straight-pipe, mid-pipe, BBTB, extractor, whatever. getting small things like a V.S don't get you anywhere faster. want better FC? turn off the air-con and it's for free or get a set of low-rolling resistance tyres (eg. Michelin) trust me, i have been cheated before. now experienced.

[impact2001]

the more you modify, the poorer you will get. if you want something powerful, go for TC, SC, exhaust, straight-pipe, mid-pipe, BBTB, extractor, whatever. getting small things like a V.S don't get you anywhere faster. want better FC? turn off the air-con and it's for free or get a set of low-rolling resistance tyres (eg. Michelin) trust me, i have been cheated before. now experienced.

interesting.. so what are u being cheated of?

[omg2doors]

cheated by 怪叔叔 hehe..

[NiVleK]

Mod mod mod spend few K and 3 years later...scrapped.

[JuanST]

lol.... why u scrapped ... 10 yrs oredi or accident?

[ace]

Why did you buy the car in the first place?

I don't see the need to add this or mod that....

I buy it for what it is.......if you don't like what it is....you just make a wrong buy.

The rest of the money stays where it is.....for other good use....

The mods, my personal view only, is like what some people tries to sell to old folks to cure ailments...they called it the magic stone.

[NiVleK]

EH? No la. I mean why waste the money on mods....

Spend few grands and then 3 years later, the temptation of new cars is there again....CHANGE AGAIN!!!

[joA]

the more you modify, the poorer you will get. if you want something powerful, go for TC, SC, exhaust, straight-pipe, mid-pipe, BBTB, extractor, whatever. getting small things like a V.S don't get you anywhere faster. want better FC? turn off the air-con and it's for free or get a set of low-rolling resistance tyres (eg. Michelin) trust me, i have been cheated before. now experienced.

hey how does "low-rolling resistance tyres" differ in other ways and wats the cons of it (since there're pros, shud have cons)?

[omg2doors]

less grip...

[jimixer]

Our stock Forte is basically very equipped liao...
Dunno if you can consider the following "mod"...

These are things which i deem necessary and added them:
1. Solar Film - For a cooler ride; Prevent sunburn during sunny days;
2. Paint Protection - Hopefully can retain the whiteness longer
3. Basic 1-Way Car Alarm - Hopefully got deterrence effect

For vanity:
1. Forte red LED scuff-plate - Think its nice... Still like it very much!
2. White LED boot-light - Goes with the white body... Also easier to find things...
3. Car flip-key - Like the compactness and convenience
4. Retro K-Emblem - Pure vanity! LOL...

For performance:
1. Voltage stablizer & grounding - Believe steady voltage is good for d.c. electrical circuits, esp auto car

Still considering getting:
1. GPS - Prevent "Hollan"
2. K&N filter - For performance?
3. White light for headlight - Goes with white body; can see further?
4. White led for cabin and map light - easier to see

actually all these add up to quite a lot oso...
i always call my car "VAIN"... *haiz*

spend more $$ on her than myself...

[aural]

BK?

[omg2doors]

Our stock Forte is basically very equipped liao...
Dunno if you can consider the following "mod"...

These are things which i deem necessary and added them:
1. Solar Film - For a cooler ride; Prevent sunburn during sunny days;
2. Paint Protection - Hopefully can retain the whiteness longer
3. Basic 1-Way Car Alarm - Hopefully got deterrence effect

For vanity:
1. Forte red LED scuff-plate - Think its nice... Still like it very much!
2. White LED boot-light - Goes with the white body... Also easier to find things...
3. Car flip-key - Like the compactness and convenience
4. Retro K-Emblem - Pure vanity! LOL...

For performance:
1. Voltage stablizer & grounding - Believe steady voltage is good for d.c. electrical circuits, esp auto car This is not performance mod.

Still considering getting:
1. GPS - Prevent "Hollan"
2. K&N filter - For performance? Not much, unless complemented with other mods. Filter set up got many types.
3. White light for headlight - Goes with white body; can see further? White light has bad throw.
4. White led for cabin and map light - easier to see

actually all these add up to quite a lot oso...
i always call my car "VAIN"... *haiz*

spend more $$ on her than myself...

[jimixer]

give up liao...

[greatgazoo]

Our stock Forte is basically very equipped liao...
Dunno if you can consider the following "mod"...

These are things which i deem necessary and added them:
1. Solar Film - For a cooler ride; Prevent sunburn during sunny days; Not consider mod
2. Paint Protection - Hopefully can retain the whiteness longer Not consider mod
3. Basic 1-Way Car Alarm - Hopefully got deterrence effect Not consider mod

For vanity:
1. Forte red LED scuff-plate - Think its nice... Still like it very much! Half half depend on how everyone see it.
2. White LED boot-light - Goes with the white body... Also easier to find things... not consider mod
3. Car flip-key - Like the compactness and convenience Not consider mod
4. Retro K-Emblem - Pure vanity! LOL... Although exterior, but not consider mod as only replacing the design of it.

For performance:
1. Voltage stablizer & grounding - Believe steady voltage is good for d.c. electrical circuits, esp auto car. Consider mod.

Still considering getting:
1. GPS - Prevent "Hollan" Not consider mod.
2. K&N filter - For performance? consider mod
3. White light for headlight - Goes with white body; can see further? LTA do approved white light but not too white, so not consider mod
4. White led for cabin and map light - easier to see Not consider mod.

actually all these add up to quite a lot oso...
i always call my car "VAIN"... *haiz*

spend more $$ on her than myself...

As long as it does not touch on your car performance and outlook of the car, it does not consider mod.
The rest like GPS, alarm etc are addition features to add into it.

[omg2doors]

omg LOL!

[greatgazoo]

omg LOL!

What does this mean?

[omg2doors]

i don't think he was asking for definition of what is mod or not.. how is it of any help to him?

oh anyway..why is white headlights not consider mod in your defintion? cos it's LTA approved?

Aftermarket white headlights are road legal but NOT LTA approved. Inspection still have to change back stock bulb.

[greatgazoo]

I suppose you are one very experience guy in cars. So whatever you explain or say is true, I will agree.

[jimixer]

haha... out of the list only 2 consider as mod... Voltage Stab & Filter...

Think most imptly is if you spend, must enjoy what you spend on lor...

[omg2doors]

no la joking.. just that in car modding..generally lump everything done to the car as mods..doesn't matter really..

ya but anyway..do remember dekit white lights during inspection.

[greatgazoo]

no la joking.. just that in car modding..generally lump everything done to the car as mods..doesn't matter really..

ya but anyway..do remember dekit white lights during inspection.

I'm not joking. I dun like to mod my car performance at all. If I want high performance car, will rather save the money for high-end car. The reason why I install 5-in-1 is because it does not modify as it is only add-on and also I just one to find out the results. Good or no good, I dun want to comments anymore and dun wana get shoot again.

Mind is not totally white, it's abit of yellowish white. No matter how, will try my luck during inspection time and if cannot, the most I replace it back to the stock one.

[JuanST]

Our stock Forte is basically very equipped liao...
Dunno if you can consider the following "mod"...

These are things which i deem necessary and added them:
1. Solar Film - For a cooler ride; Prevent sunburn during sunny days; Not consider mod
2. Paint Protection - Hopefully can retain the whiteness longer Not consider mod
3. Basic 1-Way Car Alarm - Hopefully got deterrence effect Not consider mod

For vanity:
1. Forte red LED scuff-plate - Think its nice... Still like it very much! Half half depend on how everyone see it.
2. White LED boot-light - Goes with the white body... Also easier to find things... not consider mod
3. Car flip-key - Like the compactness and convenience Not consider mod
4. Retro K-Emblem - Pure vanity! LOL... Although exterior, but not consider mod as only replacing the design of it.

For performance:
1. Voltage stablizer & grounding - Believe steady voltage is good for d.c. electrical circuits, esp auto car. Consider mod.

Still considering getting:
1. GPS - Prevent "Hollan" Not consider mod.
2. K&N filter - For performance? consider mod
3. White light for headlight - Goes with white body; can see further? LTA do approved white light but not too white, so not consider mod
4. White led for cabin and map light - easier to see Not consider mod.

actually all these add up to quite a lot oso...
i always call my car "VAIN"... *haiz*

spend more $$ on her than myself...

As long as it does not touch on your car performance and outlook of the car, it does not consider mod.
The rest like GPS, alarm etc are addition features to add into it.

doesnt really matter if mod or not... as long as ur happy with it. ur money... ur poison... just do whatever makes u happy as long as u do others no harm.....

[kapitan]

skim the headers.... ... had a bm 320i skim to the max....

[crazyfox]

I only know that stock is best because....

I had no money for mods.

[Daniel^Bigcow]

I only know that stock is best because....

I had no money for mods.

I like this comment!!! Excellent!! Hahaha!! :-)

Aiyoh!! Stock or not!! Mod or not!! Depends on individuals!! :-)

Like for me, some cars I see with mods, what I can see lah, look really ugly. Some look really nice. Ohh I not talking about fortes. :-)

Dunno. Hehehe!! I feel that cars like Merc or Volvos, if your BK too much, look very funny. Hahaha. :-) unless you dun consider BK a mod, then sorry just wasted a few seconds of your time. Hahahaha!! :-)

D*mn it!! Looks like I wont have the most stock looking or stock Forte already!! Hahaha!! :-)

[andikong]

I only know that stock is best because....

I had no money for mods.

I like this comment!!! Excellent!! Hahaha!! :-)

Aiyoh!! Stock or not!! Mod or not!! Depends on individuals!! :-)

Like for me, some cars I see with mods, what I can see lah, look really ugly. Some look really nice. Ohh I not talking about fortes. :-)

Dunno. Hehehe!! I feel that cars like Merc or Volvos, if your BK too much, look very funny. Hahaha. :-) unless you dun consider BK a mod, then sorry just wasted a few seconds of your time. Hahahaha!! :-)

D*mn it!! Looks like I wont have the most stock looking or stock Forte already!! Hahaha!! :-)

My Forte is a real stock car and have to admit too old to do any mod.

[kapitan]

andi, you mod the air con piping...hahahaaa

[aural]

For looks wise, Let's take camry as an example, i saw my first camry with a mugen spoiler and bodykit. Almost fell off my chair. My CFO commented why tt camry go put BK and spoiler, now class like no class, fierce also look not fierce.

[andikong]

andi, you mod the air con piping...hahahaaa

That one is only functional mod, just helps to run the air-con more efficiently.
By right the Kia factory should have done it

[kapitan]

For looks wise, Let's take camry as an example, i saw my first camry with a mugen spoiler and bodykit. Almost fell off my chair. My CFO commented why tt camry go put BK and spoiler, now class like no class, fierce also look not fierce.

that's y till now I have not added any bk..... I am very very selective.....

[Daniel^Bigcow]

Yeah I agree!! Hahaha!! Some cars just aint meant to put BK!! :-)

Even like merc with its mod by Brabus, may look quite alright, but really looks like there is something wrong..... or not so nice!! :-)

Maybe cos these cars were design not for BK and therefore looks better without?? Dunno.... :-)

[kevinhwc]

As for me, almost stock condition apart from Mobis Visor and SPY alarm... did nothing to my ride, not even the cabin lights (planning to..... but the LED are quite ex....)

[The Blue Cruiser]

the more you modify, the poorer you will get. if you want something powerful, go for TC, SC, exhaust, straight-pipe, mid-pipe, BBTB, extractor, whatever. getting small things like a V.S don't get you anywhere faster. want better FC? turn off the air-con and it's for free or get a set of low-rolling resistance tyres (eg. Michelin) trust me, i have been cheated before. now experienced.

interesting.. so what are u being cheated of?

cheated by 英木花道。

[lukester]

mod is aesthetic?

then i did one $256 mod by CS-II, haha.

i self control even though the car will look nicer n stuff, but if i sell, i don't see the mod to jack up my car price or what. like alot of smaller gadgets (mobile phones), after mod this and that, when i sell, no diff from original set selling price.

thats what i think. purely personal opinion.

[JuanST]

mod is aesthetic?

then i did one $256 mod by CS-II, haha.

i self control even though the car will look nicer n stuff, but if i sell, i don't see the mod to jack up my car price or what. like alot of smaller gadgets (mobile phones), after mod this and that, when i sell, no diff from original set selling price.

thats what i think. purely personal opinion.

personally, i only did aesthetic changes and i did it only for myself... to give myself a reward .... when ppl like it , i consider it a bonus ... i dont expect it to affect the selling price....

[crazyfox]

I travelled from Pasir Ris to Woodlands last night via the PIE/BKE with the fc meter reset to zero before I started out.

Tried to use the qing-gong method and got a 6.0l/100km from car park to car park.

Traffic was moderate and I tried to maintain speed at 80km/h and 90km/h. I realised with the instance FC meter, I can get a good constant speed of slightly above 80km/h with 5l.100km to the pedal. Can get leg cramp doing this because the pressure applied is so slight.

My car is stock!!!!

[Pegasus]

There's a question always on my mind regarding additional 5pt/6pt grounding. If it does improve the electricals, why it's not factory-fitted? The cost of the cables are not that expensive.

[ace]

I called them Magic Stones......haha...according to the punchline, they "cure all ailments" you have in your electrical system... They make Hercules out of your car.

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