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Post by kenincf 9th June 2009, 7:18 pm

nothing wrote:off yr audio when turning out from car parks, where u need to execute more than half turn......listen for any plastic, clicking, etc weird sound from the steering....

I tried it out this morning on my way to work, with radio/CD off. I couldn't hear anything coming from the steering wheel leh. Hmm.. looks like not all cars will have this problem.
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Post by nothing 9th June 2009, 7:25 pm

kenincf wrote:
nothing wrote:off yr audio when turning out from car parks, where u need to execute more than half turn......listen for any plastic, clicking, etc weird sound from the steering....

I tried it out this morning on my way to work, with radio/CD off. I couldn't hear anything coming from the steering wheel leh. Hmm.. looks like not all cars will have this problem.

That's good new! cheers
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Post by nothing 9th June 2009, 7:27 pm

nocash wrote:
nothing wrote:CnC just called me and told me that number of Forte also having this steering sound issue, some after lubrication, the sound goes off, but some like mine came back after awhile...they have already feedback to Kia HQ in Korea and awaiting their reply..they will arrange for a field engineer to look into my steering sound issue during my next servicing... Very Happy

On mine 2nd servicing asked them to check, they told me they lubricate the steering already, but now still got sound....

ya, lubricating only temp. solution..hopefully they can get some help from Kimchi side...
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Post by muff 9th June 2009, 7:32 pm

for my ride, I only heard this steering noise after about 1 month of usage......
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Post by kenincf 9th June 2009, 7:47 pm

muff wrote:for my ride, I only heard this steering noise after about 1 month of usage......

Wow... This is not a good news for me. My KCF is only 2 weeks old. Hope he will not give me the scary steering noise after a few weeks later... Shocked
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Post by muff 9th June 2009, 7:55 pm

but this noise only bother me in the morning when my aircon and audio is off and when steering my car out of car park area....once on the road and with aircon and audio sw on.......dun remember hearing it again....
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Post by zlement 9th June 2009, 10:32 pm

for my case, e clock spring was changed, but sound came back few days later.. aft dat went for lubrication, but sound came back again few days later.. but these few day got no more sound when turning e steering wheel..

will continue to monitor... hopefully e sound dun come back anymore..
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Post by muff 9th June 2009, 10:54 pm

Will be registering the following findings with CnC for my 5K servicing tomorrow :

1. Steering noise
2. Knocking sound when going over hump
3. Adjust Handbrake
4. Loose Passenger side seat belt mounting
5. Off centred refuelling panel (gap not equal)

All minor findings.......
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Post by saturnz^83 9th June 2009, 11:26 pm

For my 5K servicing, i will highlight the following problems:-

1) Knock sound when going over hump
2) Rattling sound at the front (think like loose fittings)
3) Boot lever hard to pull to open boot
4) Tension handbrake
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Post by waypoint 9th June 2009, 11:50 pm

What is...

muff wrote:5. Off centred refuelling panel (gap not equal)
?
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Post by Fortec 9th June 2009, 11:53 pm

waypoint wrote:What is...

muff wrote:5. Off centred refuelling panel (gap not equal)
?

The gap surrounding the circular fuel panel is not uniform. Can be adjust.
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Post by soundphile 10th June 2009, 12:21 am

muff wrote:Will be registering the following findings with CnC for my 5K servicing tomorrow :

1. Steering noise
2. Knocking sound when going over hump
3. Adjust Handbrake
4. Loose Passenger side seat belt mounting
5. Off centred refuelling panel (gap not equal)

All minor findings.......

i'm putting my ride for 5k servicing tmr too. did they tell u u need to put it down for a day for the jobs u mentioned?
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Post by Fortec 10th June 2009, 12:25 am

For my 5K servicing, i will highlight the following problems:-

1) The car is a HKS fan.
2) Rattling sound when steering wheel is turned
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Post by dipstick 10th June 2009, 12:35 am

Membership of the HKS club will keep rising cos even those who took delivery recently also have the prob. CnC techs are going to have to work overtime to rectify the prob.

As for the SDW club, it seems like no. of new members are trailing off. No more new members these few days...... or akan datang? Touch wood, me end up checking the windscreen every time I get into the car. If this is not paranoia, what is........ Neutral

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Post by myforte 10th June 2009, 12:37 am

Anyone knows whether there is any facelift for forte since it launch in spore until now? I just heard from a friend that there is but dunno where he got the source from....just wanna clarify

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Post by Fortec 10th June 2009, 12:42 am

myforte wrote:Anyone knows whether there is any facelift for forte since it launch in spore until now? I just heard from a friend that there is but dunno where he got the source from....just wanna clarify
So fast got facelift??? Why trust friends when facts are just a few clicks away?

Logically, having a facelift for a just release car is an economically
crazy move. Either Kia got no brain or ur friend haven't got one. Maybe u ain't got one too for not thinking for urself or most likely I ain't got one also coz I m typing this. Sorry
if I offend anyone.
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Post by graysgerald79 10th June 2009, 12:44 am

Maybe the facelift is for another model?

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Post by Fortec 10th June 2009, 12:44 am

dipstick wrote:Membership of the HKS club will keep rising cos even those who took delivery recently also have the prob. CnC techs are going to have to work overtime to rectify the prob.

As for the SDW club, it seems like no. of new members are trailing off. No more new members these few days...... or akan datang? Touch wood, me end up checking the windscreen every time I get into the car. If this is not paranoia, what is........ Neutral

SDW is pretty freakish tbh...I hope it's only a batch issue instead of a genuine design flaw.
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Post by myforte 10th June 2009, 1:00 am

Fortec wrote:
myforte wrote:Anyone knows whether there is any facelift for forte since it launch in spore until now? I just heard from a friend that there is but dunno where he got the source from....just wanna clarify
So fast got facelift??? Why trust friends when facts are just a few clicks away?

Logically, having a facelift for a just release car is an economically
crazy move. Either Kia got no brain or ur friend haven't got one. Maybe u ain't got one too for not thinking for urself or most likely I ain't got one also coz I m typing this. Sorry
if I offend anyone.

relax bro...logically there should not be any facelift...so you're right!
but since this thread is for Problems/Enquiries...so why not just post this enquiry to all forte experts in this forum. No harm to check from different sources anyway...
Btw isn't this the function of the forum? haha....Sorry if I offend anyone

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Post by loveforte 10th June 2009, 1:47 am

facelift will launch when the 1 version is about 2-3 or even 4 yrs old.
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Post by dreamzzlandz 10th June 2009, 6:26 am

Wow.. i read through the pages and realised that even new forte got so many problems??

Could the problems be due to the rush production to meet the rising demand, resulting in poor/low quality cars? Or because new model cars always will have problems in the first few batches?

But why dont Kia head quarter test properly the cars before releasing to the market? if they anyhow manufacture the fortes and give customers problems, wont it spoilt their own brand image??

I rather they slowly manufacture the forte and ensure they are problem free, before exporting to other countries... I even saw some of you mentioning the wind screen will crack by itself..
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Post by tish 10th June 2009, 2:49 pm

Any new model just made / created will have problems on the first batch.

standard de. thats y the warranty is super important.

They recall ur car and solve the problem for u free.
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Post by muff 10th June 2009, 3:55 pm

Finished my 5 K servicing this morning, paid $50+.

Update on findings :

1. Steering noise << Lubrication carried out - no more noise for now>>
2. Knocking sound when going over hump << need to waiting for spare from KR>>
3. Adjust Handbrake << adjusted and tight now>>
4. Loose Passenger side seat belt mounting
<< took them a while to tighten the mounting bolt due to poor access, now no more rattling noise. Probably not properly tighten after the fitment of leather seat job >>
5. Off centred refuelling panel (gap not equal)<< adjusted -now panel swee swee right in the centre>>
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Post by tish 10th June 2009, 4:01 pm

nice to hear that did solve most of ur problems Wink

lengkee ? padan ?
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Post by dipstick 10th June 2009, 4:25 pm

dreamzzlandz wrote:Wow.. i read through the pages and realised that even new forte got so many problems??

Could the problems be due to the rush production to meet the rising demand, resulting in poor/low quality cars? Or because new model cars always will have problems in the first few batches?

But why dont Kia head quarter test properly the cars before releasing to the market? if they anyhow manufacture the fortes and give customers problems, wont it spoilt their own brand image??

I rather they slowly manufacture the forte and ensure they are problem free, before exporting to other countries... I even saw some of you mentioning the wind screen will crack by itself..

The hump knock sound is most probably caused by the sub-standard parts supplied by Kia's sub-contractors. Kia's fault is in not ensuring that the parts are of good quality.

As for the self-destruct windscreens, the windscreens used may of of poor quality or they may not have been fitted properly. Another possible cause could be the very high tire pressures with the compliments of CnC.

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Post by muff 10th June 2009, 4:44 pm

tish wrote:nice to hear that did solve most of ur problems Wink

lengkee ? padan ?

no..its at Ubi...
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Post by tish 10th June 2009, 4:46 pm

ic, thanks for info Smile
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Post by muff 10th June 2009, 8:24 pm

me bought the new model Toyota Corolla in 2000 ( not the thai made Altis) it was the first batch of the new model corolla from Japan.....however after the first few months, the clutch started to made squeaking sound whenever I depress it.....went back to agent for checks and they confirmed that it was due to lack of lubrication on the clutch cable but I'll have to pay for the work done ($35) cause lubrication is not covered under warranty.........later I found that my friend's car (same model) also has the same problem during the first few months....

Quality issues relating to newly launched cars are common......even for the famous for reliability brand hor...
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Post by loveforte 10th June 2009, 8:32 pm

ya lo...
heng suay one la...
must go pray before u collect ur car.
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Post by Fortec 10th June 2009, 9:32 pm

Just to add on, Mazda 3 also had a mass recall due to a flaw in the brake design too.
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Post by nocash 10th June 2009, 9:39 pm

ya lor.... sometime QC also close one eye.... Wink
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Post by impact2001 11th June 2009, 1:02 am

Went for my 1k servicing.. Was extremetly disappointed.. It seem to be after service, my car become to have more nusiance noises where i still trying to find ways to simulate and locate them... Hecks zzzz.. In fact come out of their service center... Got two small chips off paint..

Ask the person in charge to come over and take a look.. Ask him to explain to me what is these... He see here see there and tell me, Sir i go get my service guys come over to try polish off.. Then 3 guys come, try polish off.. Verdict is can't... Person-in charge tell me, sir i believe is stone chip that cause this..

So i wonder do i look stupid to him... Me 10am send in my car to them and before i send, i got do two times check overall my car surface.. 1st at home, 2nd at service... 5pm they tell me i ready to collect my car.. so went back to collect.. found these two defects under a blazing hot sun.. I SO MAD..
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Post by whyeme 11th June 2009, 1:24 am

just had 1k servicing for my 1.6A EX on june 9th
guess what? steering squeaking noise occured today! sianz
when i collected my ride in may, there was a scratch on the bonnet and that area seemed 'matt' cos i believe they tried to polish it off but cant.
heng my SE acknowledged the scratch and C&C will respray my bonnet foc, but must leave there for 2 days...haizzz...would they provide a interim ride when my car there?

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Post by impact2001 11th June 2009, 1:47 am

nope.. i did ask that question too if i let my car go thru spray.
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Post by nothing 11th June 2009, 9:03 am

with regards to the steering creaking sound, windscreen cracked, suspension knock sound, etc..I have written in to Kia Global and they have acknowledged it and CnC also replied, hopefully they can offer a solution...

Back to the steering sound, for my case, I was trying to locate where the sound actually comes from, seem to me it's not the clock spring but the airbag module sitting in the steering hub..in service manual they refer as DAB...will ask them to try remove the DAB and turn the steering wheel, if no sound occur, confirm is the DAB rather than the clock spring....

Thank you for your email dated 10 June 2009 addressed to our principal, Kia Motors Corporation, which has been forwarded to us for reply.

With reference to our previous email dated 09 June 2009, kindly be assured that our principal is aware of your concern and they are looking into the matter. Please be informed that we will revert to you as soon as we receive an advise from our principal.

Meantime, we appreciate your kind patience in this matter.

Yours Sincerely,
CYCLE & CARRIAGE KIA PTE LTD
Matthew Tan
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Post by kysoong 11th June 2009, 9:25 am

impact2001 wrote:Went for my 1k servicing.. Was extremetly disappointed.. It seem to be after service, my car become to have more nusiance noises where i still trying to find ways to simulate and locate them... Hecks zzzz.. In fact come out of their service center... Got two small chips off paint..

Ask the person in charge to come over and take a look.. Ask him to explain to me what is these... He see here see there and tell me, Sir i go get my service guys come over to try polish off.. Then 3 guys come, try polish off.. Verdict is can't... Person-in charge tell me, sir i believe is stone chip that cause this..

So i wonder do i look stupid to him... Me 10am send in my car to them and before i send, i got do two times check overall my car surface.. 1st at home, 2nd at service... 5pm they tell me i ready to collect my car.. so went back to collect.. found these two defects under a blazing hot sun.. I SO MAD..


@ Ubi Service Centre?
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Post by tish 11th June 2009, 2:34 pm

whyeme wrote:just had 1k servicing for my 1.6A EX on june 9th
guess what? steering squeaking noise occured today! sianz
when i collected my ride in may, there was a scratch on the bonnet and that area seemed 'matt' cos i believe they tried to polish it off but cant.
heng my SE acknowledged the scratch and C&C will respray my bonnet foc, but must leave there for 2 days...haizzz...would they provide a interim ride when my car there?
bro, how u ask se to achnowledge? ur se was there?

Care to share? i'm getting my car soon. SE from leng kee, collecting pandan. worried scratch
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Post by nothing 11th June 2009, 4:29 pm

Don't worry, yr SE will be at Pandan waiting for u...my SE from Ubi and he arranged for my car to be at pandan for collection bcos near my office..
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Post by Fortec 11th June 2009, 4:35 pm

tish wrote:
whyeme wrote:just had 1k servicing for my 1.6A EX on june 9th
guess what? steering squeaking noise occured today! sianz
when i collected my ride in may, there was a scratch on the bonnet and that area seemed 'matt' cos i believe they tried to polish it off but cant.
heng my SE acknowledged the scratch and C&C will respray my bonnet foc, but must leave there for 2 days...haizzz...would they provide a interim ride when my car there?
bro, how u ask se to achnowledge? ur se was there?

Care to share? i'm getting my car soon. SE from leng kee, collecting pandan. worried scratch

Grats Tish...finally haha.
Smack ur pipi!
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Post by Leonard 12th June 2009, 2:33 am

oh yeah .
juz found out this problem wif my alarm .
previously i lock the doors wif my alarm .
after using my keys to open . BY RIGHT it'll sound the horn as alarm .
now .. pffttt the alarm horn doesn't work -__-'''
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Post by nothing 12th June 2009, 9:58 am

I have found out the problem causing the sound from steering...it's not the clock spring but the DAB (Driver Airbag module), improper fitment causes the sound....
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Post by tish 12th June 2009, 10:19 am

nothing wrote:Don't worry, yr SE will be at Pandan waiting for u...my SE from Ubi and he arranged for my car to be at pandan for collection bcos near my office..

Fortec wrote:
tish wrote:
whyeme wrote:just had 1k servicing for my 1.6A EX on june 9th
guess what? steering squeaking noise occured today! sianz
when i collected my ride in may, there was a scratch on the bonnet and that area seemed 'matt' cos i believe they tried to polish it off but cant.
heng my SE acknowledged the scratch and C&C will respray my bonnet foc, but must leave there for 2 days...haizzz...would they provide a interim ride when my car there?
bro, how u ask se to achnowledge? ur se was there?

Care to share? i'm getting my car soon. SE from leng kee, collecting pandan. worried scratch
ohh the agent will be there, thanks Smile Anyway any directions ? i stay at sengkang Sad

Grats Tish...finally haha.
Smack ur pipi!
ahh thankie bro!! haha ok let u smack my pipi 1 time haha Very Happy
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Post by scorpey 12th June 2009, 10:25 am

wow... how u knw? u open out and see ar? cyclops
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Post by nothing 12th June 2009, 10:55 am

scorpey wrote:wow... how u knw? u open out and see ar? cyclops

ya, but recommend not to do that bcos initially I also scare scare becos last time my ride no Airbag, happy happy I change steering wheel bcos mine installed with a modular adaptor...this time round also scare abit, imagine snap the cables or ...let me send back to wkshop and confirm it's the root cause before u guys thinking of doing any DIY... Very Happy
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Post by ck7373 12th June 2009, 11:00 am

Leonard wrote:oh yeah .
juz found out this problem wif my alarm .
previously i lock the doors wif my alarm .
after using my keys to open . BY RIGHT it'll sound the horn as alarm .
now .. pffttt the alarm horn doesn't work -__-'''

I suppose the alarm should sound off. I planned to test my alarm today and see whether it works.
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Post by tish 12th June 2009, 11:04 am

i tot the stock got no alarm
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Post by nothing 12th June 2009, 11:46 am

I think stock no alarm more like auto lock/unlock function....EX have aftermarket alarm install....
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Post by whyeme 12th June 2009, 2:30 pm

tish wrote:
whyeme wrote:just had 1k servicing for my 1.6A EX on june 9th
guess what? steering squeaking noise occured today! sianz
when i collected my ride in may, there was a scratch on the bonnet and that area seemed 'matt' cos i believe they tried to polish it off but cant.
heng my SE acknowledged the scratch and C&C will respray my bonnet foc, but must leave there for 2 days...haizzz...would they provide a interim ride when my car there?
bro, how u ask se to achnowledge? ur se was there?

Care to share? i'm getting my car soon. SE from leng kee, collecting pandan. worried scratch

dun worry bro your se must be there to hand over the car to you.
make sure u check the paintwork carefully and if (touchwood) got scratches, ask your se to write down onto your collection form and sign so that C&C will rectify during servicing.
congrats on your 2 litre forte!
powderful!!!

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Post by scorpey 12th June 2009, 2:35 pm

nothing wrote:
scorpey wrote:wow... how u knw? u open out and see ar? cyclops

ya, but recommend not to do that bcos initially I also scare scare becos last time my ride no Airbag, happy happy I change steering wheel bcos mine installed with a modular adaptor...this time round also scare abit, imagine snap the cables or ...let me send back to wkshop and confirm it's the root cause before u guys thinking of doing any DIY... Very Happy

wa say~ u r the man! better than those C&C tech crew!! *salute*
i hope ur finding will solve this problem once and for all... =)
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Post by whyeme 12th June 2009, 2:43 pm

nothing wrote:
scorpey wrote:wow... how u knw? u open out and see ar? cyclops

ya, but recommend not to do that bcos initially I also scare scare becos last time my ride no Airbag, happy happy I change steering wheel bcos mine installed with a modular adaptor...this time round also scare abit, imagine snap the cables or ...let me send back to wkshop and confirm it's the root cause before u guys thinking of doing any DIY... Very Happy

wow bro pls be very careful with the airbag mechanism. i watched on discovery channel that the explosive activation achieived by the airbag is possible cos they actually use explosive tablets (something like small bombs).
admire your courage!

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